Qianlong (?) Bowl

[TKNZ]

Hi all,

I recently got this small fine porcelain bowl with a Qianlong mark, although I have no idea how to tell if it's fake or has an apocryphal mark as I have essentially no experience with imperial ceramics. I think the decoration is Ming inspired and is using a couple of shades of blue pigment. There are two dragons, flowers which I am assuming are chrysanthemums, and a banana-leaf border to the base. It's definitely hand-painted and not a transfer, and the porcelain form itself is a good quality.

Thanks,
Thomas.

[TKNZ]

A couple more photos.

[JjGhandi]

Hi TKNZ,


I'm not an expert but the mark seems off, glaze too shiny & white and the mark seems off.
Also the dragons are sloppy.
I'd say late 20th century but that's just my 2 cents.


Kind regards,

JJ

[Stan]

Hi Thomas, it is my understanding that these types of dragons with the split tails were not used in the Qing dynasty, but in the Ming, I agree with JJ 20th century.

[peterp]

The base is wrong for any antique period.
First, the leaves around the the foot rim represent banana leaves. They should have an empty, that is white, central rib. A full rib was only used in the Yuan dynasty.
The dragon has no claws and its mane looks more like a lady's wig. On a Qianlong item it would have a fierce expression. The flower shapes may resemble modern ones, but not the style that was used in the Qing dynasty. I'm afraid this is a modern item.

[TKNZ]

Haha, pretty much as I expected. Good thing I only paid $10 for it at a second hand store, and it remains a nicely made item to look at. What a shame they had to go and plaster a shoddy reign mark on it.

[Stan]

99% of reign marks are spurious and therefor we need to look at everything else, age signs, decoration, colors and many more factors, but your right it is a nice rice bowl.