Unknown mark

Zigs · Sep 29, 2017, 19:13:10

Can anyone please help me identify this porcelain mark?

Stan · Sep 29, 2017, 20:19:07

It say's made at Jingdezhen, generally this would be a republic mark.

Zigs · Sep 29, 2017, 20:39:37

Thank you for your response. Is there any way to date the mark?

cimage · Sep 29, 2017, 22:21:18

As Stan said "Republic", chinese republic period... 1912-49.

Zigs · Sep 29, 2017, 22:45:02

Thank you for your help and excuse my ignorance. I'm a total novice at this and know absolutely nothing. Is it worth getting an item from that period valued?

Adriano · Sep 30, 2017, 01:32:05

Sorry to disagree: pieces with this mark are date c. 1970.
For reference you should look at gothebor.com site.
(gotheborg.com/marks/20thcenturychina.shtml#jingdezhenciyegongsichupin)

Best regards,
Adriano

Stan · Sep 30, 2017, 08:11:24

Hi Adriano, for what its worth, China is still a republic, isn't it. I believe that anything that says "Made in" would be after 1920 and is still being used today.

Hmm · Sep 30, 2017, 11:41:24

Taiwan is still a republic. Or known as Republic of China. Mainland China is known as the People's Republic of China, and is Communist rather than a republic. Still I like to think of the Republican era as starting from 1912 (after the emperor officially abdicated to '49), rather than saying it has continued on, as a matter of international legal sovereignty.

Since the piece was made in mainland China, post '49, it's probably improper to say it was part of the Republican era either way.

Stan · Oct 01, 2017, 10:16:36

Today I went in a Chinese porcelain shop that sells new porcelain and they had some items with this very same mark, the pieces could not be more than a coupe of years old, so apparently they are still using this mark.

bokaba · Oct 02, 2017, 11:34:33

Hi Stan, from what I understand, marks specifically referencing Jingdezhen appeared in the 1950s. This mark looks printed, so it is probably brand new. We could tell more if the whole piece were posted.

Stan · Oct 02, 2017, 20:50:10

Yes, you are right Bokaba, the piece I saw in the store, the mark and decoration was printed and under a loop you can see the dots in the decoration, probably printed with a dot printer and then transferred onto the porcelain.

Zigs · Oct 02, 2017, 22:02:42

Thanks for all your comments and feedback. I've attached a pic of the piece. Sorry, not great light or quality. The second is a close up of the pattern and the third is the underside of the piece. My understanding is that it's a double gourd vase?