Late qing ?

[konniela]

Hello everybody,

I have seen this nice plate (17,5 cm). Colours and painting looks like Tongzhi or Guangxu to me, the mark seems to be Chenghua, but looks a bit strange, so I am not sure.

Thanks for help

[konniela]

two more photos

[Stan]

Hi Konniela, the colors are right for Guangxu but I have not seen a Chenghgua mark on Guangxu, so may be late Tongzhi after all definitely late Qing.

[peterp]

Yes, your dating is right. Items with this specific decoration often come with an apocryphal Chenghua mark.

[konniela]

Good news, thank you both.

I thought first Tongzhi, but it seems, that probably also pieces exist from Guangxu with Chenghua mark (gotheborg/later chinese porcelain/ming mark), when the information there is right.

[peterp]

There is never a clear distinction between two reigns because even if styles and methods changed, this was a gradual process. You always can expect that something of early Guangxu looks similar as Tongzhi and/or even has a Tongzhi mark. That is why we often say "Tongzhi-Guangxu" or "Jiaqing-Daoguang", because it could be either.