Millefleur Plate

[bokaba]

I was wondering if this is a Republic period millefleur plate. It has a red Qianlong stamp on the back. I don't think the decoration is fine enough to be Republic or Guangxu. It is about 13 inches across.

Thank you

Bokaba

[Stan]

Hi Bokaba, I think your first instincts are correct, not Guangxu or republic, I do not think they would have put the mark off center in the earlier periods, especially a Qianlong mark, they would always be centered on the bottom.

[bokaba]

Thanks Stan. This is a saucer size millefleur pattern that I believe to be Guangxu or Republic.

Bokaba

[Hmm]

The first plate you posted looks very much like plates made in the 60s by Japan, but painted in HK. 

Here's some other examples of millefleur from the late Qing/Republic, although tea bowls instead. 

watersilkdragon.wordpress.com/2015/01/22/10-chinese-millefleur-teabowls-%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E5%8D%81%E5%A4%A7%E7%B1%B3%E5%B0%94%E8%8A%99%E8%93%89%E8%8C%B6%E7%A2%97/

[peterp]

Any backside picture for the second plate?

To Hmm:
The four character Qianlong mark was used mostly after the Qing dynasty, in the Guangxu reign the Kangxi mark was more popular.  However, I still think that these cups with a background are at least from the twenties of thirties. Would be interested in any reliable information proving otherwise...
As far as I understand all millefiori decorations showing a background are either from the early republic or later.

[bokaba]

Hi Peter,

Here is the backside to the second plate.

Bokaba

[peterp]

The mark character writing is a bit uncommon for Guangxu. Perhaps republic?  Personally I feel this one looks much better.

[bokaba]

Republic was my sense too.