A Blue and white Plum ginger jar -

Started by heavenguy, Jun 11, 2025, 12:13:31

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heavenguy

Hi everyone, I got this jar but to be honest I don't know if it is late QING or Republic. shows exagareted age signs that makes me wonder. any help be of much appreciation.

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heavenguy

more pics.

peterp

At first sight it looks good, but is not of the quality usually seen in the late Qing dynasty, especially on export items.
My main concern are the scratches on the unglazed part of the shoulder, but they can be explained by the use of a bamboo tool for cleaning the shoulder of glaze.
Difficult to tell from these pictures, but I would check the glaze carefully. Check with a magnifier if there is scratching, or traces from acid, which server the reduction of glaze gloss of newer items. The glaze dents in the bottom are not necessarily age faking, the painting itself is also of lower quality. It might just have been of lower production quality.

The painting and pigment color is also not of the quality we normally see, but I  also want to point out that the blossom/petal configuration resembles that of the Kangxi reign. It is not necessarily from the late Qing dynasty.

heavenguy

Hi Peter, 

IMO the item looks legit but what worries me is that it has "way too many" (if that is even possible in a real item) age signs. the wear looks ok IMO, nothing on the wear looks in a pattern or some technique they can use to fake age on items . it has the randomness of any wear in a real item. the lines you mentioned  on the top shoulder are more like kiln cracks than scratches. they even continue below the glaze. I wasn't thinking that it actually looks more like an 18th century item more than a 19th or 20th century, but I what made me doubt was that is too small like 6 inches all round to be of period. you can even see the knife cuts from the top and bottom rims. the paste looks thick might be that it is a low quality item since they probably did not clean the clay very well. but those are my two cents on it. thanks for the info.

heavenguy

here are more pi s. thanks

peterp

I understand what you mean, I would be doubting too (!), but it is difficult to find anything looking unnatural. The blossom configuration does not count, (you know Kangxi revival), it was imitated in the late Qing dynasty too. The cracks visible inside would hardly be from faking.
All these problems point to a dirty kiln environment and deteriorating production quality, insufficient clay refining, etc.As long as you don't pay too much for something like that...
You could try cleaning it up. Some of the dirt inside the glaze indents should be removable, making it look better.