Vintage? Chinese Rooster Vase, Enamel and Paint, Age? Mark?

[Kaaren B.]

Hello again.

This is a vase I picked up today at a moving sale. I have seen rooster design on other pieces, and assume it is a happy symbol. Guessing this is first quarter or half of 20th century?

Blue mark on bottom is painted over glaze.

Enamel work and shading is very nice. The little chicks at the feet of the rooster are very charming.

Any information about mark, age, and quality appreciated. Thank you! Kaaren

[peterp]

Hi Kaaren,
Not sure about the period of this. The painting style and fencai decoration could make this early 20th century, republic period, but the life-like details of the rooster point to a later time.
What do you call "vintage"? Anything can be from a later period and be decorated in an earlier style. If I could do a hands-on inspection of interior and glaze that would be easier to decide. The fencai colors all look of the earlier type.
Purely judging by decoration style and colors used I would say perhaps second or third quarter of the 20th century, judging by these pictures only.
Qianlong marks are commonly found on 20th century items.

[Kaaren B.]

Thank you, Peter.

By the way, I have a new laptop, and my password here hasn't transferred over. I keep asking to reset it, but the promised link to reset password never arrives in my email Inbox.

Is there any way I can see my password so I can bring it over to the new laptop? Email address is same as it has always been.

Thanks! Kaaren

[peterp]

Hi Kaaren,

Yes, it seems the forum server is not sending emails properly. I will need to check the cause in order to resolve it, but that may take some time.
Even as admin it is impossible to see users' passwords, I'm afraid.

One question, how did you post this message? That would not have been possible without still having the original password.
Do you still have access to your old PC, and its browser? If yes, you should be able to export passwords to a file and find it directly there.
How it is done depends may differ depending your browser, however.

The other way would be to sign up anew. If you wish the same user name and email, I could delete your account first and then it should be possible to sign up with the same data.
Just let me know.

In the meantime I will try to find out what the problem is with the forum server...

[Kaaren B.]

Hi, Peter.

The older machine is still working, and the login still works on it, it just didn't transfer over.

So I'm using the old machine in here.

"Vintage" as I have usually heard it refers to something that is 50 years or more old.

So if this vase is mid-20th century it's well into vintage territory; if it's third quarter, it's as close to half a century as makes little difference.

Antique, I have always heard, is always at least 100 years old to qualify.

Did I mention that the blue mark is painted over the glaze, not under it?

My bad for not writing my password down. I'll just have to login with new. K.

[peterp]

Yes, it seems to be enamel, which may or may not be related to age.  :-)

Vintage and antique are not clearly defined words. But, in the CCC code which is used worldwide by customs offices for setting custom tariffs; they use 100 years or older for antique. Items of this age are subject to 0 tariff*. Some people say 80 years is antique, etc. I consider items from the 1930s or older as antiques. This is very subjective. I can tell you that the term "vintage" is basically an English language term; in the several languages I know (European and East Asian) there is no term corresponding to this exactly.

* In said code the tariff is usually 0 for antiques over 100 years. Never pay customs for antique bought abroad. If someone buys or sells antiques of 100 years or older, they should always mention the work "antique" or "over 100 years old" in the customs declaration (even with post parcels). Then they will not charge the recipient customs.

As to your passwords, most browser which have stored passwords either have the capability to export them directly, or an extension (addon) can be installed to do this. Depends on what browser you are using. Firefox, Safari and others all work this way. Exporting them to a file to your desktop or an USB drive allows you then to transfer this to the new computer and import them from there. Just look under "Bookmarks" for that capability of your browser. If you cannot find a password exporter addon tell me what your browser is. I will try to find one for you.