FISHING PLATES - LOOKING FOR ASSISTANCE WITH DATING

[Lalakiross]

Hello,

I have a pair of hand painted blue and white plates, which feature fishing scenes surrounded with carp borders. I was wondering if anyone could give an indication of where these may have been made, and from what era.

[Stan]

Hi Lalakiross, these photo's are to small to tell, a larger picture of the detail, peoples faces and any age signs, dimples, rust spots, and eat. also one of the foot rim at a 45 degree angle, these photo's should be clear and under natural light close to a window, thanks.

[peterp]

This is most likely Japanese.

[Stan]

That is what I suspected " Japanese"  but with the small pictures and lack of stilt marks, it is questionable.

[Lalakiross]

Hi all,

Thanks for the feedback, I've attached some more pics (sadly no daylight left but hope they help)

[Lalakiross]

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[Lalakiross]

Hello,
I've done some more online investigation and think these may be Kangxi. I've seen Kangxi examples with similar fish and blue colour. Does that seem correct or is there still a feeling these are Japanese?

Thanks

Ross

[konniela]

The decoration alone can not tell you, how old a piece is. You can find these fishes on Kangxi pieces, but also later and on modern pieces.  You must have a look on form, foot rim, colours and age signs, all together.
On these photos, the plate looks white and glossy, I can see barely age signs. The colours looks more grey than blue.  But it may be due to the photos.

[Stan]

Im thinking Qing dynasty, mid Qing, the bottom is to clean to be Kangxi

[Lalakiross]

Thanks all. I was thinking that the flaking to the glaze on the rim perhaps indicated perhaps more age than a 20th century piece. It's hard to get good pics with the limitation on file size. So comfortable in concluding this is Chinese rather than Japanese?

[konniela]

The chinese Qing dynasty was finished in 1911, so late Qing would be not so bad.

[peterp]

The problem I have is with the plate shape, which does not look much like any Chinese plate shape.