1000 Butterflies Fencai Plate

Started by kardinalisimo, Aug 07, 2014, 11:11:14

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kardinalisimo

Stan, If you google it you will find many examples.
http://www.cleij-art.com/gallerycw.htm

Honestly, I find some of those to be very pleasantly  decorated. They do have their collectible value and some are expensive.  But still I think a Chinese piece is supposed to stay the way it was made even if  simply decorated.

Stan

Thanks for that information, now I at least know what it is, anything decorated in the 18th century, you would think would be collectable, even in Europe.

kardinalisimo

Some nice examples here:
http://andrewbaseman.com/blog/?tag=clobbered

peterp

I would be careful with the examples of overpainted teapots and other items.. Some have a shape that could be Japanese or something else, not very typical Chinese. The "canton" plate shown below is definitely not Chinese, it could be European, though, in my view.
And, the mark just above said to be Chinese contains no Chinese characters at all. Actually it is also not Japanese or Korean.
And, the pot just below it looks distinctly Arita to me. Several items have a Japanese taste.

While repaired or modified items may be acceptable, much of what is shown on this site would not conform to the taste of collectors of Chinese porcelain.
The problem with this sort of item is that if something gets modified, it becomes something else. and that may not be what we want to collect. Otherwise, we could collect European chinoiserie as well. Chinese blanks that were completely painted in Europe can hardly be called Chinese wares. Depends much on what someone is interested in.

kardinalisimo

Thanks for the remarks Peter. I even did not bother to check if the linked examples were Chinese. Just wanted to give Stan a general idea of what clobbered ware was.