Song and Ming Plates

[Maritess Nacua]

Hi there Peter and Stan.  A seller is selling me these two items for enormous amount of money.  I asked permission for the pictures before I will buy it.  Please identify if these are real or not.  I do not waste my money on these since, I collected many of the fakes already.  Thank you in advance!

[peterp]

In my view both are easy to recognize fakes.

[Maritess Nacua]

Hi Peter.  You are my hero!  This is how clueless I am - no experience but passionate about Chinese porcelain.  I am posting more items that I believe could be real ones but, again, I can be wrong again.  Thank you very much for you help.