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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Antique Japanese & Korean Ceramics => Topic started by: rebagogo on Dec 03, 2014, 06:59:58

Title: Chinese OLD Plate Butterfly floral characters on front
Post by: rebagogo on Dec 03, 2014, 06:59:58
Hello!

Ran across this plate today....need your help!  I do appreciate anything you can tell me!  All over crazing is present.  Not signed on back but there are three characters on the front.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Chinese OLD Plate Butterfly floral characters on front
Post by: peterp on Dec 03, 2014, 07:59:37
Please upload pictures of about 100kB, these are too small. Looks Japanese, but larger pictures needed for verification. A picture of the backside may also help, even without a mark.
Title: Re: Chinese OLD Plate Butterfly floral characters on front
Post by: rebagogo on Dec 03, 2014, 10:45:31
I am too stupid to load a larger pic.  I had to reduce these to 200 as the instructions said.  I am so sorry!  Japanese!  Ack!  I don't want it to be Japanese lol.  Thank you!!!!
Title: Re: Chinese OLD Plate Butterfly floral characters on front
Post by: rebagogo on Dec 03, 2014, 10:52:09
Is this any better? Thanks!
Title: Re: Chinese OLD Plate Butterfly floral characters on front
Post by: rebagogo on Dec 03, 2014, 10:55:29
And the back
Title: Re: Chinese OLD Plate Butterfly floral characters on front
Post by: peterp on Dec 03, 2014, 11:22:18
Thanks. The decoration does not look Chinese. Japanese is still the best bet.
Title: Re: Chinese OLD Plate Butterfly floral characters on front
Post by: rebagogo on Dec 03, 2014, 12:07:36
Oh darn thank you.....I am all depressed now lol  Appreciate the help!
Title: Re: Chinese OLD Plate Butterfly floral characters on front
Post by: Stan on Dec 03, 2014, 15:33:44
This is Japanese, Satsuma, if you could upload a magnified picture of the marks on the front of the plate that would give us the maker, thanks.
Title: Re: Chinese OLD Plate Butterfly floral characters on front
Post by: rebagogo on Dec 03, 2014, 20:27:29
I will give it a shot!  Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Chinese OLD Plate Butterfly floral characters on front
Post by: rebagogo on Dec 03, 2014, 20:41:39
This okay?
Title: Re: Chinese OLD Plate Butterfly floral characters on front
Post by: Stan on Dec 04, 2014, 02:33:10
Sorry, but the first two characters are illegible, in my books of signatures it looks like it could possibly be Taizan or Kozan, maybe someone with more knowledge than me can tell.
Title: Re: Chinese OLD Plate Butterfly floral characters on front
Post by: peterp on Dec 04, 2014, 08:13:53
Looks like Kinkozan (???).
Title: Re: Chinese OLD Plate Butterfly floral characters on front
Post by: rebagogo on Dec 04, 2014, 08:23:14
Thank you so much!  Can anyone tell age?  I do appreciate the help!
Title: Re: Chinese OLD Plate Butterfly floral characters on front
Post by: rebagogo on Dec 04, 2014, 08:26:15
Also I see others out there that say Kinkozan STYLE.  This would not be STYLE, this would be the real thing right?