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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: calder on Nov 03, 2014, 21:48:33

Title: Swatow hand painted Ceramic vase
Post by: calder on Nov 03, 2014, 21:48:33
Bought  a pair of vases not advertised as Chinese but looked to me to be very similar to Swato ware.
What are peoples thoughts on the vase converted to lamps.
Title: Re: Swatow hand painted Ceramic vase
Post by: calder on Nov 03, 2014, 21:50:56
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Title: Re: Swatow hand painted Ceramic vase
Post by: calder on Nov 03, 2014, 21:52:21
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Title: Re: Swatow hand painted Ceramic vase
Post by: Stan on Nov 04, 2014, 07:36:01
Hi Calder, I think they were trying to copy The Wucai style decoration but the crackle would be much later providing that it is Chinese, looks like a fake by the looks of bottom.
Title: Re: Swatow hand painted Ceramic vase
Post by: peterp on Nov 04, 2014, 08:35:42
This is a very easy to detect, modern fake. The foot rim and base are not right at all.

There is a page on the website mentioning why the name "Swatow" is not appropriate. They should be called Zhangzhou wares. See www.chinese-antique-porcelain.com/swatow-wares.html
I would suggest to look at museum websites with the Zhangzhou wares, to get a feel for their decoration. Mostly they are relatively crude porcelain from the Ming dynasty.
Title: Re: Swatow hand painted Ceramic vase
Post by: Stan on Nov 04, 2014, 09:05:12
Hi Peter, it will not load in my browser and when I manually type it in it says there is no such page.
Title: Re: Swatow hand painted Ceramic vase
Post by: peterp on Nov 04, 2014, 09:19:23
You must have some error in the address. It is definitely there. If you copy the link, be careful not to cut off the last "l" (of html).  htm will not do.
Title: Re: Swatow hand painted Ceramic vase
Post by: Stan on Nov 04, 2014, 11:17:40
I Peter, I do not know what Im doing wrong but all three times it goes to your web page but it says that no such url is at this domain.
Title: Re: Swatow hand painted Ceramic vase
Post by: Stan on Nov 04, 2014, 11:21:47
Thanks Peter, I was typing  it in wrong.
Title: Re: Swatow hand painted Ceramic vase
Post by: Stan on Nov 04, 2014, 11:30:31
That is good reading Peter, I sure would like to get my hands on some real Zhangzhou porcelain, I like really like it and have never came across any.
Title: Re: Swatow hand painted Ceramic vase
Post by: peterp on Nov 04, 2014, 12:43:33
It is easier to find dishes than plates. The majority of the red green bowls and plates was exported to Japan (and perhaps some to SE Asia). If it is B/W Kraak style wares, it is easier, as that was exported in large quantities to Europe.
But careful, both the red green and B/W wares were copied in Japan until at least the 19th century.
Title: Re: Swatow hand painted Ceramic vase
Post by: Stan on Nov 04, 2014, 13:33:39
Thanks for the good information.
Title: Re: Swatow hand painted Ceramic vase
Post by: calder on Nov 05, 2014, 04:19:06
Cheers Stan, Peter.
Learning.