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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: david on Oct 10, 2014, 20:26:15

Title: Chinese Export Mug? Late 1700's? Rooster foot handle
Post by: david on Oct 10, 2014, 20:26:15
Could anyone possibly confirm my thoughts that this might be a Chinese Export Mug from the late 1700's?  There's a similar one on Ebay which is just floral, this one has what appears to be a family crest and monogram.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Chinese Export Mug? Late 1700's? Rooster foot handle
Post by: peterp on Oct 10, 2014, 20:54:36
Better provide close up pictures. Need details from front center and back center decoration, as well as a close shot of the bottom (really close). Partial is fine, but the foot rim and part of the base should be clearly visible. Any blemishes should be visible.
On the surface this could be 18th century, but there are too many fakes out there.
Title: Re: Chinese Export Mug? Late 1700's? Rooster foot handle
Post by: david on Oct 10, 2014, 21:04:54
Thank you Peter.  I'm afraid that my digital camera doesn't take close ups, but I will certainly try. 
Title: Re: Chinese Export Mug? Late 1700's? Rooster foot handle
Post by: peterp on Oct 10, 2014, 21:28:58
With a digital camera you just need high enough resolution. You then cut out the required piece from the overall image using the image program. Usually that is sufficient.
Or, you can upload a large image of the whole item on an outside image host (e.g. Photobucket) and post the link here.
Title: Re: Chinese Export Mug? Late 1700's? Rooster foot handle
Post by: Stan on Oct 11, 2014, 00:13:24
This indeed looks to be 1780 Chinese export.
Title: Re: Chinese Export Mug? Late 1700's? Rooster foot handle
Post by: david on Oct 11, 2014, 03:06:55
Here are some closer views of the mug.
Title: Re: Chinese Export Mug? Late 1700's? Rooster foot handle
Post by: Stan on Oct 11, 2014, 03:32:41
could you provide a picture of the bottom at an angle so we get a good photo of the foot rim, thanks.
Title: Re: Chinese Export Mug? Late 1700's? Rooster foot handle
Post by: david on Oct 11, 2014, 03:50:08
Here you go.
Title: Re: Chinese Export Mug? Late 1700's? Rooster foot handle
Post by: Stan on Oct 11, 2014, 04:24:08
This is why pictures are so important, everything checked out until now, this is clearly a good reproduction, actually one of the best Ive seen.
Title: Re: Chinese Export Mug? Late 1700's? Rooster foot handle
Post by: Stan on Oct 11, 2014, 04:26:24
The foot is wrong and the bottom inside the foot would have been glazed.
Title: Re: Chinese Export Mug? Late 1700's? Rooster foot handle
Post by: david on Oct 11, 2014, 23:27:53
Have you seen the one on Ebay?  The bottom looks very similar to mine, unglazed.  Mine actually has a small round glazed center.  Could the one on Ebay be a fake as well?
Title: Re: Chinese Export Mug? Late 1700's? Rooster foot handle
Post by: Stan on Oct 12, 2014, 01:26:40
I have seen many of these and I have some some my self, the bottom on yours is modern, if the one on ebay has a foot like yours and unglazed bottom I would not buy it.
Title: Re: Chinese Export Mug? Late 1700's? Rooster foot handle
Post by: Stan on Oct 12, 2014, 01:34:59
Furthermore, all of the late 18th century were hand made and they differ a little one from another, but they all kept the same style, same foot, same glazed bottoms, another thing is the inside of your cup is also wrong for that period and conforms to a cup made in a mould,