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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Antique Japanese & Korean Ceramics => Topic started by: spentoken55 on Oct 07, 2014, 04:55:20

Title: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: spentoken55 on Oct 07, 2014, 04:55:20
hi, i have been left by my gran some chines or japanese(asian) antiques and i know nothing about them.
could some one please tell me anything about them..ie..age/what they are called,anything would be helpfull

many thanks lee
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: Stan on Oct 07, 2014, 06:49:28
A picture of the back is needed, one at an angle so we can see the foot, this is needed to tell the age.
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: spentoken55 on Oct 07, 2014, 07:06:25
here is the stamp
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: spentoken55 on Oct 07, 2014, 07:08:19
and back of plate
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: spentoken55 on Oct 07, 2014, 07:08:56
and side, have 2 of these plates
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: spentoken55 on Oct 07, 2014, 07:14:10
i also have 2 small vases about 3 inches tall and it has these symbols underneath
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: spentoken55 on Oct 07, 2014, 07:23:06
and this very small teapot with this symbol on inside of lid, sorry my pics are not that great but i am having difficulty getting them under 200kb
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: spentoken55 on Oct 07, 2014, 07:27:48
and i have a very small vase about 1 inch high
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: spentoken55 on Oct 07, 2014, 07:28:22
and this is the symbol under the small vase
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: Stan on Oct 07, 2014, 08:29:21
The Plate looks like late 19th century famille rose the other items are Japanese, the photos are to blurry to say one way or the other for age.
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: peterp on Oct 07, 2014, 08:34:08
Stan, do you think that the plate could be Japanese?
If there is a back stamp of that type that would be highly unusual for Chinese. Although the decoration looks Chinese, the legs of the stand where the jardiniere is on is also a bit unusual. Not sure...
Basically, the decoration style could be Chinese, but the shape, when looked at sideways is also not showing a typical Chinese or Chinese export shape. What might help to know is whether the top rim is completely level, and the the shape of the foot rim. It would have to be later (20th c.) if it is Chinese, I think.

The only mark of this type I know in Chinese porcelain appears on Ming (imperial) porcelain. But common Japanese porcelain of the 19th century has made use of this.
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: peterp on Oct 07, 2014, 08:43:10
The red mark says "Hizen, Arita", plus the company name, but the company name is a bit too abbreviated for reading.
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: Stan on Oct 07, 2014, 09:03:42
I thought that the shape of the plate is a bit unusual for chinese, but then I never have seen Japanese decoration in these colors or decoration, I think you are right 20th century, but I could not tell if the mark embossed in the porcelain is on the plate, if it is it is possible that it could be neither Chinese or Japanese but European done with a Chinese motif.
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: peterp on Oct 07, 2014, 11:30:32
Chinoiserie...I have considered that possibility too. Still, not sure. It would have to be something from Samson or the like. They made top quality imitations.  The plate decoration really resembles Chinese decorations very much.
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: spentoken55 on Oct 07, 2014, 15:43:58
I know the plate has been in the family for 80+ years. I will try and put btter pics on later. but many thnx for your heloo guys
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: spentoken55 on Oct 08, 2014, 04:44:54
i have added another pic of the imprint on the back, after trawling the internet i have found that it is the symbol of kerr & binns....could any one confirm this???
Title: Re: asian porcelain left to me and know nothing about...please help
Post by: Stan on Oct 08, 2014, 08:03:31
I have never heard of them, the names sound English, and they did a lot of Chinoiserie as Perter stated, sorry I can't help.