Chinese Ceramics & Antiques Discussion

Antique Chinese Ceramics => Antique Japanese & Korean Ceramics => Topic started by: abderrahim on Apr 27, 2024, 06:16:20

Title: identification Please???
Post by: abderrahim on Apr 27, 2024, 06:16:20
please is this chinese porcelain. ??? If so, what is his age. Thank you.
Title: Re: identification Please???
Post by: peterp on Apr 27, 2024, 08:00:11
No it is not Chinese, it is Japanese.  And it is not antique. This is a porcelain container for liquor and the label mentions the shop or manufacturer, the address, alcohol percentage etc. in Japanese.
83. 3. seems to be the date of manufacture.

Again, this is not an antique item, the writing imitates some rustic or artistic calligraphy.
Title: Re: identification Please???
Post by: Stan on Apr 27, 2024, 15:24:34
This is a Japanese Sake bottle with cup.
Title: Re: identification Please???
Post by: abderrahim on Apr 28, 2024, 00:52:10
Hi Peter and Stan, Thank you very much for your response
Title: Re: identification Please???
Post by: Stan on Apr 28, 2024, 03:29:04
Hi Peter, I know that the Japanese make Sake, Do the Chinese use it, I have never seen a Chinese Soke bottle.
Title: Re: identification Please???
Post by: peterp on Apr 28, 2024, 12:46:30
Hi Stan,
Basically, in Japanese "sake" can mean alcoholic beverages in general. But it also indicates rice wine, specifically. And that, as far as I know is not a traditional Chinese beverage.
But speaking of traditional usage of alcoholic beverages Japan did not have wine from grapes in ancient times, while the Chinese apparently had fermented wine.  It might be that in China this depends on the region, as rice growing is major factor and that would perhaps not be possible in the north, but it is in the south. Nowadays they will probably have anything available as elsewhere.
Title: Re: identification Please???
Post by: Stan on Apr 28, 2024, 15:09:07
Thanks Peter that is good to know, Sake is Rice Wine, I think I have a Chinese wine pot, I posted it a long time ago.