Chinese Ceramics & Antiques Discussion

Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: Stan on Aug 12, 2014, 01:43:08

Title: Korean or Ming
Post by: Stan on Aug 12, 2014, 01:43:08
Hi Peter, I just acquired this jar, it is 15.875 cm tall and it is stone ware I think, it is made in two pieces, you can see the seam in the middle, the crackle was made that way it is the same inside, I do not know if it is Ming or Korean, I know that Korea was a part of China during the Ming reign, I think, could you tell me what is on the jar there is a character, on both sides they are the same, thanks.
Title: Re: Korean or Ming
Post by: Stan on Aug 12, 2014, 01:44:05
Here are more photo's.
Title: Re: Korean or Ming
Post by: Stan on Aug 12, 2014, 01:45:49
Last set of photo's, thanks for again,
Title: Re: Korean or Ming
Post by: peterp on Aug 12, 2014, 07:25:48
Might well be Korean, Stan. At least, the impression the shape gives me is similar as those Korean items I have seen until now. That is a decoration, not a character, on the outside.

BTW, Korea was a vassal state of the Yuan empire. It became independent afterwards and the same dynasty ruled until the 19th century, as far as I know. Chinese writing was used until the 19th century, but probably only by the government.
Title: Re: Korean or Ming
Post by: Stan on Aug 12, 2014, 11:48:48
Have you ever seen one with a crackle like this, I do not recall seeing one, as you said the shape looks Korean but the ones I seen have a tapered top, it tappers from the bulbous part of the jar and tapers out, not like this one that seems to be the opposite.
Title: Re: Korean or Ming
Post by: peterp on Aug 12, 2014, 12:17:12
The manufacturing method and shape is not Chinese, neither does it look Japanese to me. What is left is mainly Vietnamese or Thai. Ball-shaped vase bodies are always suspect of not being Chinese.
Yes, I have seen such crackling, but this type of base is unknown to me. Did you note that in picture four, from the bottom, there seems to be a spiral line around the circumference?

BTW, I'm sure part of the darkness of the glaze and crackles is caused by age-old dirt. These items were not made that brown color. It might have been blue and white, originally.
Looks like a storage jar to me. The piece adhering at the side points to other pots being fired in close proximity. 
Title: Re: Korean or Ming
Post by: Stan on Aug 12, 2014, 13:43:33
Thank you for your insight Peter.
Title: Re: Korean or Ming
Post by: Qst42know on Aug 12, 2014, 17:01:43
This looks much like a kimchi pot. For fermenting vegetables.

An image search "kimchi pot" shows many sizes roughly the same shape and color.
Title: Re: Korean or Ming
Post by: Qst42know on Aug 12, 2014, 17:05:16
Just a guess, mind you.
Title: Re: Korean or Ming
Post by: Stan on Aug 12, 2014, 20:56:34
Thanks Qst42know, I will search under kimchi pot, but don't they usually use a large pot for kimchi?
Title: Re: Korean or Ming
Post by: Qst42know on Aug 12, 2014, 21:36:34
Your welcome Stan I hope the little I contribute can do some good.
Once you look, some are barrel size others could sit on a window shelf.
Other spellings could turn up more examples.