Chinese Ceramics & Antiques Discussion

Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: Qst42know on Jul 27, 2014, 20:48:49

Title: Snuff bottle mark.
Post by: Qst42know on Jul 27, 2014, 20:48:49
I hope someone can read this mark. It appears to be on top of the glaze so it's only partially there.

Truth be told I can't tell if it's right side up. LOL
Title: Re: Snuff bottle mark.
Post by: Qst42know on Jul 27, 2014, 20:50:17
The other sides.
Title: Re: Snuff bottle mark.
Post by: Stan on Jul 28, 2014, 00:20:15
I believe that this is a Chinese porcelain carved snuff bottle, probably late Qing, I can't make out the mark either, but I was told by experienced collectors that the ones like this that is the most collectable would have carved animals and  less people,
Title: Re: Snuff bottle mark.
Post by: Qst42know on Jul 28, 2014, 00:59:55
Thanks again Stan. As always good information.

Perhaps PeterP will have better luck with the mark.
Title: Re: Snuff bottle mark.
Post by: Stan on Jul 28, 2014, 01:27:30
Hi Qst42know, these marks are apocryphal and can not be used for age, I have one that is similar that had a Qialong mark but is late Qing.
Title: Re: Snuff bottle mark.
Post by: peterp on Jul 28, 2014, 08:16:27
The first character seems to be Qian...of Qianlong, but not completely sure as the mark is in a bad shape. It could have been added later, but is apocryphal.
Late Qing probably.
Title: Re: Snuff bottle mark.
Post by: Qst42know on Jul 28, 2014, 17:37:50
I was doing some reading elsewhere and if what I found is true snuff was introduced by the Portuguese during the qing dynasty so older marks  on snuff bottles would all be apocryphal.

In any case thanks for the information gentlemen. 

By the way did I have what was left of the mark right side up?
Title: Re: Snuff bottle mark.
Post by: Qst42know on Jul 28, 2014, 17:55:41
PeterP
You have mentioned before that Chinese decorations often follow a story line or folklore.
Do the decoratins on this bottle resemble such a theme?
Title: Re: Snuff bottle mark.
Post by: peterp on Jul 28, 2014, 21:29:56
It is just a lot of children, I think, a matter that by itself was considered auspicious, in ancient China.
Title: Re: Snuff bottle mark.
Post by: shelley Kong on Jul 29, 2014, 02:59:32
In old China, we wished people one hundred children and a thousand grandchildren, which today is almost like a curse!