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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: smak on Nov 03, 2021, 10:47:11

Title: Ming Jar? I have doubts!
Post by: smak on Nov 03, 2021, 10:47:11
I have some doubts... what do you guys think?
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Post by: smak on Nov 03, 2021, 10:47:30
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Post by: smak on Nov 03, 2021, 10:48:00
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Post by: smak on Nov 03, 2021, 10:48:23
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Title: Re: Ming Jar? I have doubts!
Post by: peterp on Nov 03, 2021, 12:55:22
You are right.
I will give you some points which are not conforming.

1. This is a Ming dynasty shape. Is there a horizontal seam inside? Such an item would have been made on the wheel in two parts, which then were joined. The process would leave a seam, often visible on both the outside and inside. I can see none. (But the seam is sometimes faked.)
2. The decoration is contradictory -- the decoration band along the base is a stylized lotus petal decoration, and there are banana leaves to the side of the willow branches. A white leaf rib would mean it would have to be Ming. Lotus petals which have no rounded top corners and a space like these between each another would have to be Yuan.
3. No matter whether Yuan or Ming Hongwu reign, the bottom would have no glaze, and the clay would not be of this type.
4. It looks as if a tool was used to make scratches in the foot rim.
5. The glaze, decoration and the top rim look too pristine and shows no signs of use or production traces at all.