Chinese Ceramics & Antiques Discussion

Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: samborsu on Apr 23, 2020, 23:21:40

Title: Chinese Family Rose
Post by: samborsu on Apr 23, 2020, 23:21:40
Hello, Stan , Peterp...another one for you....
Is this a Family rose vase? and what date was it made? It is 13" high
Thanks
Title: Re: Chinese Family Rose
Post by: Stan on Apr 24, 2020, 02:01:05
Canton Famille Rose vase, the foot looks like late Qing but the salamander and squirrel or dragons and foo lions, they look like salamanders and squirrles to me, usually would date to mid 19th century, this is one of the most common exported patterns ever made which brings down the collectability among collectors, but nice example from the Mid to late 19th century.
Title: Re: Chinese Family Rose
Post by: samborsu on Apr 24, 2020, 02:57:43
Thanks, I do not know what they are
Title: Re: Chinese Family Rose
Post by: peterp on Apr 24, 2020, 07:45:05
19th century.
Title: Re: Chinese Family Rose
Post by: peterp on Apr 24, 2020, 08:04:53
That is the result of mass production, Stan.
Should be lions and dragons. :-)
The dragons stuck on the outside of vases are what we call Zhilong...they really 'do' look like salamanders and usually have a split tail.
Title: Re: Chinese Family Rose
Post by: Stan on Apr 24, 2020, 14:44:08
Thanks Peter, The Zhilong, is that a baby dragon with split tail?.
Title: Re: Chinese Family Rose
Post by: peterp on Apr 24, 2020, 15:21:03
It is not a baby dragon, actually, but the Chinese talk about the ''dragon's nine children'. Not meaning the dragon had nine children, but there are nine different types of dragons. It seems they were introduced at different times in mythology. In all you will probably only encounter about five or six of them on ceramics, perhaps two or three on Ming/Qing ceramics. They were different according to period, but during the same period there were often more than one in use. The zhilong appears usually on the neck and/or shoulder of vases and jars as early as the Yuan and Song dynasties.
Title: Re: Chinese Family Rose
Post by: samborsu on Apr 24, 2020, 19:37:19
Thank you