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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: Adriano on Apr 18, 2020, 18:29:46

Title: Rose Canton plates
Post by: Adriano on Apr 18, 2020, 18:29:46
I have a couple of Rose Canton plates, with similar decoration, that I have identified as second half of 20th century.
However, looking carefully at the bottom, I guess they could be older, possibly Republic period.
They are all hand painted, apart from the internal Greek decoration that could be printed.
Please let me know your comments.

Thank you and Best Regards,
Adriano.
Title: Re: Rose Canton plates
Post by: Adriano on Apr 19, 2020, 00:44:56
Looking the Greek decoration with a magnifier, it seems hand painted too.
Title: Re: Rose Canton plates
Post by: Stan on Apr 19, 2020, 01:11:05
Im thinking that this is an old plate that has been redecorated at a later date, I can't say that I have ever seen a Ruyi band on a Rose Medallion plate, I agree 2nd half of the 20th century.
Title: Re: Rose Canton plates
Post by: Adriano on Apr 19, 2020, 01:31:03
Thank you Stan, really this band is not common for Rose Medallion decoration.
Title: Re: Rose Canton plates
Post by: peterp on Apr 19, 2020, 10:44:06
Hi Adriano,

At first it seemed old, especially the gilt is the dull type, while many 20th century items with this decoration have a bright gilt.
But, there are two things to consider. First, the connection of the foot rim to the base area is rounded instead of a corner, which usually means an item is not that old. And second, if you look closely at the contours of similar details some look as if they are transfer printed. They are too similar...more so than with hand-painting.
(For example, the detail given below is exactly equal to that on the opposite side, even the faint parts are on the same side.)
Title: Re: Rose Canton plates
Post by: Adriano on Apr 19, 2020, 17:08:30
Hi Peter,

Thank you for the useful considerations.