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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Antique Japanese & Korean Ceramics => Topic started by: mason88888 on Mar 09, 2020, 21:50:31

Title: Help with identifying beautiful large Chinese vase ?
Post by: mason88888 on Mar 09, 2020, 21:50:31
Hi,

Would really appreciate any help in identifying this beautiful large Chinese Vase.?

Is it of any age? and is it collectable ?

I've had it for years but never got it checked.

Has a few markings on the base.

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Title: Re: Help with identifying beautiful large Chinese vase ?
Post by: Stan on Mar 10, 2020, 01:51:00
This is Japanese, looks like a copy of Fukagawa Sei, 20th century in my view.
Title: Re: Help with identifying beautiful large Chinese vase ?
Post by: peterp on Mar 10, 2020, 09:42:22
Definitely, shape and decoration look Japanese.
Title: Re: Help with identifying beautiful large Chinese vase ?
Post by: mason88888 on Mar 10, 2020, 17:40:51
Thank you. Any idea on the makers mark?
Title: Re: Help with identifying beautiful large Chinese vase ?
Post by: Stan on Mar 11, 2020, 01:30:46
Im not sure but it looks like Fukagawa Sei but the mark above is not right for Fukagawa, it would be a Mt Fuji or an Orchid leaf, I have never seen this mark before and the middle character Gawa is not like any I have seen in the past, Fukagawa is still being made today so it could be a modern mark.
Title: Re: Help with identifying beautiful large Chinese vase ?
Post by: mason88888 on Mar 11, 2020, 02:30:42
Thanks for your reply and information.

The only other name I have stumbled across is  Genroku would this be a possibility ?

Regards
Title: Re: Help with identifying beautiful large Chinese vase ?
Post by: Stan on Mar 11, 2020, 07:10:23
What makes you think Genroku, it dose not look like it to me.
Title: Re: Help with identifying beautiful large Chinese vase ?
Post by: peterp on Mar 11, 2020, 11:57:14
Mark characters:
There are four characters/symbols, but they are not easy to read due to the fancy writing often found in Japanese marks. The first might just be a kind of symbol. If it was a character it would have to be 人 which makes no sense in a name. The second might indeed be 深 as in Fuka(?), but not quite sure, the third character is not gawa 川 as in 深川, but 大 or 太, which does not add up to Fukagawa. The fourth character could be 製, meaning 'made', but again difficult to be sure due to the fancy writing. (Japanese marks frequently contain abbreviated characters with missing strokes, which makes it difficult to read them.)
Title: Re: Help with identifying beautiful large Chinese vase ?
Post by: mason88888 on Mar 11, 2020, 19:35:32
Thank you,  only reason i'm Confused is that I came across this vase which has exactly the same markings for  Genroku Tominaga?

Regards.

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Title: Re: Help with identifying beautiful large Chinese vase ?
Post by: peterp on Mar 11, 2020, 19:54:36
Thanks, on that vase the mark is clearly visible.  The first is just a symbol not a character. The actual mark indeed says 源六製 Genroku-sei (Made by Genroku). Thus it seems to be made by Tominaga Genroku.
Title: Re: Help with identifying beautiful large Chinese vase ?
Post by: peterp on Mar 13, 2020, 08:10:27
A search on the Japanese language Internet resulted in information that this is a potter's mark.
This was the only English I found on the web:
Tominaga is the family name, Genroku is personal name. Apparently born in the late Edo period, activity is Meiji to Taisho era, ceramics potter who was related to Arita, it seems.
(Nothing to do with the better known Genroku era of Japan.)

The only English info I found on the Japanese Internet: 
research.britishmuseum.org/research/search_the_collection_database/term_details.aspx?bioId=193105
Title: Re: Help with identifying beautiful large Chinese vase ?
Post by: mason88888 on Mar 13, 2020, 23:28:41
Thanks very much peter for your responses :)