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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: konniela on Apr 29, 2019, 20:12:55

Title: Late qing ?
Post by: konniela on Apr 29, 2019, 20:12:55
Hello everybody,

I have seen this nice plate (17,5 cm). Colours and painting looks like Tongzhi or Guangxu to me, the mark seems to be Chenghua, but looks a bit strange, so I am not sure.

Thanks for help
Title: Re: Late qing ?
Post by: konniela on Apr 29, 2019, 20:13:47
two more photos
Title: Re: Late qing ?
Post by: Stan on Apr 30, 2019, 00:26:00
Hi Konniela, the colors are right for Guangxu but I have not seen a Chenghgua mark on Guangxu, so may be late Tongzhi after all definitely late Qing.
Title: Re: Late qing ?
Post by: peterp on Apr 30, 2019, 07:40:51
Yes, your dating is right. Items with this specific decoration often come with an apocryphal Chenghua mark.
Title: Re: Late qing ?
Post by: konniela on Apr 30, 2019, 22:10:07
Good news, thank you both.

I thought first Tongzhi, but it seems, that probably also pieces exist from Guangxu with Chenghua mark (gotheborg/later chinese porcelain/ming mark), when the information there is right.
Title: Re: Late qing ?
Post by: peterp on May 01, 2019, 08:06:08
There is never a clear distinction between two reigns because even if styles and methods changed, this was a gradual process. You always can expect that something of early Guangxu looks similar as Tongzhi and/or even has a Tongzhi mark. That is why we often say "Tongzhi-Guangxu" or "Jiaqing-Daoguang", because it could be either.
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