Chinese Ceramics & Antiques Discussion

Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: konniela on Sep 10, 2018, 17:10:34

Title: chinese plate
Post by: konniela on Sep 10, 2018, 17:10:34
Hello again,

I have seen this plate, looks unusual but old to me. I would like to know, if it make sense, to have a closer look an go there again to see the back. 

Thanks
Title: Re: chinese plate
Post by: peterp on Sep 10, 2018, 20:33:53
Two things, this type of rim is extremely rare in traditional Chinese porcelain, but it might exist. The many thin black lines visible in this too small image might possibly be printed. It is impossible to tell with this single picture, but from afar it looks as if they might be printed.
Title: Re: chinese plate
Post by: konniela on Sep 10, 2018, 21:32:22
The photo is here bigger and  I can enlarge it a little bit, to me the lines looks not printed, they are unequally.  When it is handpainted -may be-, how old can it be ?

But you are right, it is only a photo. I will have a closer look the next days an then come back to this piece.

Title: Re: chinese plate
Post by: konniela on Sep 12, 2018, 18:03:50
Hello again,

I could have a closer view and made some photos.  It is not a plate, more a bowl (5,5 cm high) and handpainted. 
Overall the surface is uneven, it seems to be no porcelain, it is thick and heavy.

Made 19. century ?

It seems to be old and it is nice painted, but I am not sure, if I should buy it.  I could not find any other piece like this.
Title: Re: chinese plate
Post by: konniela on Sep 12, 2018, 18:04:37
two more photos
Title: Re: chinese plate
Post by: peterp on Sep 12, 2018, 18:10:02
Looks like late Qing...any picture showing the flower on the outside? These are often decisive in dating.
Title: Re: chinese plate
Post by: konniela on Sep 12, 2018, 18:16:19
one I have
Title: Re: chinese plate
Post by: peterp on Sep 12, 2018, 19:06:24
Thanks for the additional picture. In my view it is most likely early 20th century. The wavy glaze is also pointing to that period.
Title: Re: chinese plate
Post by: konniela on Sep 13, 2018, 03:40:06
I thought, that it is not so old, when I saw it in real.  Nice, but not old, thats the fakt.

Thank you for your help and knowlegde