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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: Pablo82 on May 08, 2018, 00:31:48

Title: Guanyin with child
Post by: Pablo82 on May 08, 2018, 00:31:48
Hi Peter and members,

Please your opinion on this Guanyin. How old could it be? Is it chinese or japanese?

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Guanyin with child
Post by: Pablo82 on May 08, 2018, 00:32:32
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Post by: peterp on May 08, 2018, 09:55:08
The glaze would be yingqing (qingbai) glaze, but with a bit too much celadon in the recesses. The bottom shows cloth threading, which is normally visible on early republic pieces. Not sure if the crackling is natural or artificially induced, but I would be careful.
Title: Re: Guanyin with child
Post by: Pablo82 on May 09, 2018, 04:39:53
Thank you Peter. I wonder if the the stronger saturation of celadon that appears in the photo isn't due to the presence of dirtiness that I didn't remove to avoid damages to glaze. I provide closer images of recesses. In the worst case could it be Republic or fake? Thank you again for your help.
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Post by: Pablo82 on May 09, 2018, 04:40:27
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Post by: Pablo82 on May 09, 2018, 04:43:45
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Post by: Pablo82 on May 09, 2018, 04:47:14
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Post by: peterp on May 09, 2018, 08:34:08
Pablo, I admit that the figurine looks old, it probably is. But this crackling with this bottom is unusual, because this bottom would have to be early 20th century. I do not know if there are any figurines of this type which have such a bottom, in China, otherwise. So, I do not say it is a fake, but I have mostly only Dehua and late republic figurines to compare. This is qingbai porcelain which is attributed to Jingdezhen, normally.
Qingbai means here 'celadon+white'. This type of glaze is generally white, but in crevices where the glaze is thick the celadon is more prominent. In this case the celadon color is unusually strong. Nothing to do with the dirt or anything else, this is firing related.
I just want you to be careful with such items, because some fakes show excessive greenish or bluish celadon the recesses, like yours, but this one seems to be old.
Title: Re: Guanyin with child
Post by: Pablo82 on May 09, 2018, 16:22:10
Thank you Peter for your kind answer. Thank you for your time and the knowledge that you offer in this forum.
Title: Re: Guanyin with child
Post by: heavenguy on May 10, 2018, 00:25:48
I see some black dots in parts of the glaze. Perhaps the bubble identification method can be of some use here. I read somewhere that  it was very common in Qingbai glaze.
Title: Re: Guanyin with child
Post by: Pablo82 on May 10, 2018, 04:07:40
Thank you for your contribution, Heavenguy. Yes, the glaze shows several small black dots, as you can  see in this last photo.
Title: Re: Guanyin with child
Post by: peterp on May 10, 2018, 09:22:32
These are holes...they are firing faults not age signs.
Title: Re: Guanyin with child
Post by: Pablo82 on May 10, 2018, 15:08:51
Thank you all!!