Chinese Ceramics & Antiques Discussion

Antique Far Eastern Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: thanh trinh on Apr 20, 2018, 11:18:49

Title: Song Qingbai ewer
Post by: thanh trinh on Apr 20, 2018, 11:18:49
Hello everyone
I've got this ewer. In my point of view, it is a Song Qingbai pottery.
It is thinly potted and lighty one.
What is your opinoin?
Thanks
Regards
Thanh Trinh
Title: Re: Song Qingbai ewer
Post by: heavenguy on Apr 20, 2018, 12:46:49
In my opinion it looks new.  foot looks way off. glaze is weird. I don't know, it doesn't look like an antique qingbai piece.
Title: Re: Song Qingbai ewer
Post by: peterp on Apr 20, 2018, 14:45:40
This is copying a Song dynasty item, but it looks fairly new.
Title: Re: Song Qingbai ewer
Post by: thanh trinh on Apr 20, 2018, 18:18:11
Hello Peterp and Heavenguy
Thanks for your comments.
However, I'm wandering that could the forgers make a fake of ring spurs marks as well as a fingers marks on the base?
And this is a ring spur mark that I get from Christie's
Thanks again for viewing
Regards
thanh Trinh
Title: Re: Song Qingbai ewer
Post by: peterp on Apr 20, 2018, 19:38:51
The ring is from a firing support ring used during the firing. It has nothing to do with age but with firing methods To fake it they just use such a  ring to recreate the traces. The item shows no age signs appropriate to the Song dynasty, and also is not exactly the same shape. The glaze should have a hue of yellow.
Almost all production traces can be reproduced or faked to a degree that even museum experts may have difficulties recognizing them, sometimes. Most fakes are not of such high quality, though, only those copying high price items,
Title: Re: Song Qingbai ewer
Post by: thanh trinh on Apr 23, 2018, 09:59:19
Hi Peterp
Thanks for your analysation.
So, identification of an antique item is really a head-ache work,
Thanks again
See you on next topic
Thanh Trinh