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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Antique Japanese & Korean Ceramics => Topic started by: Dominique on Mar 25, 2018, 20:46:15

Title: japanese vase
Post by: Dominique on Mar 25, 2018, 20:46:15
Hi, I found this japanese vase and got problem with the signature...
Title: Re: japanese vase
Post by: Stan on Mar 26, 2018, 08:23:04
Im not sure about this one, normally the painting style would have a Hichozan mark in which  is the decoration, the figures are a typical decoration with black which is a trait of Hichozan, the mark dose not look anything like the marks in my book, although in my book there are marks not the same but closer to the marks on this vase and that would be dated 1820, I do not think that this is that old it looks late Meiji to me.
Title: Re: japanese vase
Post by: Dominique on Mar 29, 2018, 02:43:29
Thanks for your help Stan I got a problem with this mark, I can't find anything about it...
Title: Re: japanese vase
Post by: peterp on Mar 29, 2018, 09:11:34
The mark characters are too small.
Title: Re: japanese vase
Post by: Dominique on Mar 29, 2018, 15:41:36
Hope this one is better...
Title: Re: japanese vase
Post by: peterp on Mar 30, 2018, 07:39:25
The right part is the maker or kiln, the left probably the craftsman, which would not be essential for identifying the mark. Unfortunately, the middle character is not completely clear. I can only come up with ??? .
Title: Re: japanese vase
Post by: Dominique on Mar 31, 2018, 21:58:21
Better?
Title: Re: japanese vase
Post by: peterp on Apr 01, 2018, 10:36:39
Hi Dominique,
It is not a matter of the image resolution this time, but of strokes of one of the characters. Sometimes handwriting is difficult to read, because of abbreviated strokes,etc. And, there are characters of which old and current ones are both in use. Here the strokes don't seem to fit the current, modern character, but I cannot find a similar one. It may be just a wrong character stroke... there is just no such manufacturer's name,
Title: Re: japanese vase
Post by: Dominique on Apr 03, 2018, 00:32:15
Ok peterp I understand.
Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: japanese vase
Post by: Stan on Apr 03, 2018, 05:11:26
I think the vase was unsigned and the mark was added, it should have been a Hichozan Shinpo-sei made in Hizen mark this vase is one of a pair that would have had a reverse painting of the one you have, the one you have is marked on the front of the vase, I think it says right, the other would have said left on the front and the bottom on the left could have been signed.
Title: Re: japanese vase
Post by: Dominique on Apr 07, 2018, 04:07:19
Thanks Stan!
Title: Re: japanese vase
Post by: Dominique on Aug 08, 2018, 23:11:37
Hi, I have made some modification on the signature...
Just when to know if it is better?

Thanks!