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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Antique Japanese & Korean Ceramics => Topic started by: konniela on Jan 13, 2018, 19:30:47

Title: Charger
Post by: konniela on Jan 13, 2018, 19:30:47
I bought this charger very quick and without any investigation (I hope not too quick).
The photos I have right now are not the best. The foot rim seems to be straight, so may be late Meiji.

I could found only one piece with similar decoration, should be Arita 19.century, but I don?t know, if these informations are serious.

Next week, I can have a closer look and can take more photos, but I am very curious, what the forum can tell me with a first view.
Title: Re: Charger
Post by: konniela on Jan 13, 2018, 19:31:19
One more photo
Title: Re: Charger
Post by: Stan on Jan 15, 2018, 11:52:46
The decoration is strange, I have never seen a mountain and cloud formation as this, not traditional painting that you would see on Japanese blue and white in my opinion and you are right about the foot rim 20th century.
Title: Re: Charger
Post by: Mat on Jan 15, 2018, 17:00:34
It is Shida-yaki, late Edo. See here a very similar plate: http://www.imari.com/shida.html
Title: Re: Charger
Post by: Stan on Jan 16, 2018, 00:19:46
Mat, The Mountains on the plate looks traditional Japanese painting but not on this one, looks like a copy.
Title: Re: Charger
Post by: Mat on Jan 16, 2018, 18:58:40
Stan, in my opinion is is ok for Shida Yaki which can be quite crude in it's decoration. When you search for Shida dishes (????), you can see the range of quality of this ware....
Title: Re: Charger
Post by: Stan on Jan 16, 2018, 22:00:53
I am still leaning towards a copy, the foot is all wrong for late Edo period, this is a 20th century foot rim, also the tree decoration, there is many things that just do not line up to convince me other wise.
Title: Re: Charger
Post by: konniela on Jan 17, 2018, 14:14:34
First thanks to Stan and Mat for informations, especially Mat for this good web side, it was very helpful to search for more.  The charger will arrive today or tomorrow, may be more photos can help.

I found the same charger in an online shop from a dealer in Amsterdam, seems to be a serious dealer. He say, 19.th Century and the decoration should be Mount Fuji. 
Title: Re: Charger
Post by: konniela on Jan 26, 2018, 05:22:07
Finally I?ve got time for some more photos

The foot rim seems to be not strange, but I am not realy sure.

May be not so old as on the first view, also not the best quality (but it was very cheap)
Title: Re: Charger
Post by: Stan on Jan 26, 2018, 08:14:13
Thanks for the additional photo's, the outside foot is straight typical of 20th century.
Title: Re: Charger
Post by: konniela on Jan 28, 2018, 01:21:26
Thanks to you.

I am realy dissapointed, that a big dealer (1.500 pieces China and Japan) offers so badly wrong. Also the dealer was not the reason for me to buy, but I loose more and more serious websites to compare.