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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: T. Chan on May 14, 2014, 03:57:44

Title: A pair of red color gilded vase with pond scenery
Post by: T. Chan on May 14, 2014, 03:57:44
Dear Peter and All,
I have a pair of red color gilded vase with pond scenery. And it has a  Qianlong year stamp mark on the base. Is it the same period or more recent? The base rim has been clean well with lemon. Thank you.
Regards,
Taufan
Title: Re: A pair of red color gilded vase with pond scenery
Post by: T. Chan on May 14, 2014, 04:03:45
Pic of the base
Title: Re: A pair of red color gilded vase with pond scenery
Post by: Stan on May 14, 2014, 08:54:06
These pictures are pretty small, I think it is an apocryphal Qianlong mark, the unglazed foot shows that it is very dense porcelain, meaning a later made vase Guangxu period.
Title: Re: A pair of red color gilded vase with pond scenery
Post by: peterp on May 14, 2014, 09:02:39
The bottom looks recent. The red color of antiques is based on either iron or copper, but these never produced such a hue of red. This is most likely chemical colors, in other words made in the 20th century.
Title: Re: A pair of red color gilded vase with pond scenery
Post by: Stan on May 14, 2014, 09:14:12
Chemical colors that would put it mid to late 20th century, is that right Peter?
Title: Re: A pair of red color gilded vase with pond scenery
Post by: peterp on May 14, 2014, 10:31:22
Chemical pigments were used since the early 20th century, possibly mixed with others, for I don't remember ever seeing such a bright red on an early 20th century item. Probable more recent.
Title: Re: A pair of red color gilded vase with pond scenery
Post by: Stan on May 14, 2014, 10:36:48
Thanks Peter.
Title: Re: A pair of red color gilded vase with pond scenery
Post by: T. Chan on May 14, 2014, 17:55:13
OMG! So now I know, that for Qing, color is very important aspect too! I thought design is the main point! So sorry. The red is definitely different! Far different! After reading your comment, I took another pics for this vase under shade. The red is 100% the same now. It takes a while to adjust the camera. Please comment on my new pics. Thank you.

Oh yes, forgot to say, the bottom has been clean with lemon.
Title: Re: A pair of red color gilded vase with pond scenery
Post by: Stan on May 15, 2014, 00:11:18
These photos look a 100% better, I will leave the comments on this vase to Peter, it looks like a nice vase to me but the bottom looks strange.
Title: Re: A pair of red color gilded vase with pond scenery
Post by: T. Chan on May 15, 2014, 06:02:29
Do you what Stan, Begining today, I will re take pictures of all my ceramics again. All the colors are wrong. Hehehe. Maybe need 3-4 days to do it.
Title: Re: A pair of red color gilded vase with pond scenery
Post by: T. Chan on May 15, 2014, 16:37:14
Dear Peter, sorry, but could you please review on this? Because I am very curious does it have age? I mean Republic or vintage at least? Because I acquired 5 pcs from a collector that has passed away on 04 years ago and this pair is one of them. If this have age, I will post the others too:-) because even until now I still don't know of their age. Thank you.