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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: Siluett on Oct 10, 2017, 06:07:28

Title: Quianlong red marked vase. Opinion please.
Post by: Siluett on Oct 10, 2017, 06:07:28
Hi!

Its an original or 70's repro or newest?
40cm tall.

Thank You for help!

Have a wonderful day!:)

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Title: Re: Quianlong red marked vase. Opinion please.
Post by: Siluett on Oct 10, 2017, 06:08:14
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Title: Re: Quianlong red marked vase. Opinion please.
Post by: Stan on Oct 10, 2017, 06:47:39
Hi Siluett, I would have thought modern Japanese Imari, but I never have seen the Japanese use a Qianlong mark in Zhuanshu Script, so maybe modern Chinese.
Title: Re: Quianlong red marked vase. Opinion please.
Post by: Siluett on Oct 10, 2017, 07:10:32
Hi Stan! Thanks for Your reply! So its fully modern?
I ask quietly... worth it 200 USD?
Title: Re: Quianlong red marked vase. Opinion please.
Post by: Siluett on Oct 10, 2017, 18:24:33
Thank You very much!

And this?
Title: Re: Quianlong red marked vase. Opinion please.
Post by: Siluett on Oct 10, 2017, 18:26:41
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Title: Re: Quianlong red marked vase. Opinion please.
Post by: peterp on Oct 10, 2017, 19:41:19
Probably late 20th or 21st century.
The colors and color combination are almost impossible with traditional porcelain.
I would pay less attention to the mark and more to the decoration, etc. for deciding possible age.
Title: Re: Quianlong red marked vase. Opinion please.
Post by: Siluett on Oct 10, 2017, 19:57:46
Thank You peterp!

Wow. The seller sold the second vase on ebay 60k usd.
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So the first red stamped vase is japanese vase with chinese stamp?
Title: Re: Quianlong red marked vase. Opinion please.
Post by: peterp on Oct 10, 2017, 22:14:42
I don't believe something could sell at that amount on Ebay. Never believe all what you see, especially when it comes to Chinese antiques. Some sellers may try to prop up the price by shill bidding.
Even at a regular auction you would have to have imperial quality, and this is too far from it. The Chinese sell much better quality fakes than that on the Internet.
Title: Re: Quianlong red marked vase. Opinion please.
Post by: Adriano on Oct 11, 2017, 00:54:30
I think that the first vase is a Macau production of 1960-70?s.
This for the pale color of the enamel and for the un-Chinese style and more Japanese.
Probably these pieces were produced for the Japanese market.
As reference, you can look at this site: gotheborg.com/marks/macaustyle.shtml.

Best regards.