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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: calder on Jul 05, 2017, 07:07:25

Title: Prunus vase
Post by: calder on Jul 05, 2017, 07:07:25
Hello
What are peoples thoughts on this Jar Late Qing?
Have been offerd it for ?120,00
Is it worth it?
In perfect condition .
Just under 40 cm in height. stand included.
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: bokaba on Jul 05, 2017, 12:44:48
Hi Calder,

From prior discussions, it appears that Kangxi period prunus jars tend to have unglazed necks and a profound cracking-ice blue ground. From what I've seen, the jars with a swabbed on ground tend to be from either the 19th Century or are new fakes.

www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/46774

Bokaba
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: Stan on Jul 05, 2017, 13:40:51
Hi Calder, the prunus design is one of the most copied designs through the Qing dynasty and later, I think yours is later than Qing because of the bottom, I do not see any age signs, maybe republic.
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: peterp on Jul 05, 2017, 15:00:43
With such small images it is difficult to see details of the decoration, or base.
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: Stan on Jul 05, 2017, 21:37:42
Sorry Calder, Peter is right, the images are to small, I get a little frustrated when I see images like this, especially on the web site's that sell porcelain and post small images like this on purpose, so you can not really tell the age, I was looking at the design  and the bottom, but a close up of the bottom and one of the detail is needed to confirm.
BTW if this is 19th century, I think it at that price is to cheap in my opinion,especially with a lid and with a nice stand like the one shown.
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: bokaba on Jul 05, 2017, 22:55:46
I would try asking the seller for larger, more detailed pictures. It is hard to tell, but the jar looks to be too think to be the traditional "ginger" jar shape that was in use at the end of the 19th Century IMO.

Bokaba
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: Stan on Jul 05, 2017, 23:44:18
Hi Calder, all the Prunus vases that I have seen in the late Qing period have had glazed at the sholder and top and inside rim, this looks unglazed which means it could be early 19th or 20th century.
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: calder on Jul 06, 2017, 01:40:26
Thank you for your your input.
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: calder on Jul 06, 2017, 01:41:52
Picture of the wooden base.
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: Stan on Jul 06, 2017, 07:55:07
Thanks Calder for the additional photo's, could you send a close up of the bottom at an angle, this should be clear thank you.
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: Lee Seng Kong on Jul 06, 2017, 10:14:13
From a layman point of view, if it is only GBP 120.00........I would buy it.....the wooden stand itself should cost half it
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: calder on Jul 08, 2017, 01:41:44
Thank you all,as soon it arrives I will post better pictures.
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: calder on Jul 14, 2017, 05:16:05
Base of vase.
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: calder on Jul 14, 2017, 05:16:36
More.
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: calder on Jul 14, 2017, 05:18:37
Picture of neck.
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: calder on Jul 14, 2017, 05:19:36
More
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: calder on Jul 14, 2017, 05:20:04
Lid.
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: calder on Jul 14, 2017, 05:20:49
Lid
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: peterp on Jul 14, 2017, 07:27:41
Apart from the elongated shape everything, colors, etc. seems to correspond to the Kangxi revival (Guangxu 1875-1908) period.
Title: Re: Prunus vase
Post by: calder on Jul 15, 2017, 02:47:32
Thank you all for your thoughts.