Chinese Ceramics & Antiques Discussion

Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: kardinalisimo on May 30, 2017, 03:09:04

Title: Song Style Bowl
Post by: kardinalisimo on May 30, 2017, 03:09:04
I'm thinking a modern reproduction but want to double check. Thanks
Title: Re: Song Style Bowl
Post by: Stan on May 30, 2017, 05:39:35
Your right, "modern" I do not think that the Chinese had such bottoms.
Title: Re: Song Style Bowl
Post by: kardinalisimo on May 30, 2017, 05:45:18
Thanks for the reply. What do you mean by such bottoms? It's common for Ru and other ware to have fully based bottoms with spur marks.
Title: Re: Song Style Bowl
Post by: Stan on May 30, 2017, 05:55:18
The foot rim, the mark and the spur marks combined looks very modern.
Title: Re: Song Style Bowl
Post by: kardinalisimo on May 30, 2017, 07:45:18
They look ok to me, I just don't see good age signs.
Title: Re: Song Style Bowl
Post by: Stan on May 30, 2017, 10:07:16
I noticed two colors, one looks like a teal color and the other is a greenish gray color, which one is right?
Title: Re: Song Style Bowl
Post by: kardinalisimo on May 30, 2017, 10:24:25
It's more like teal, sky-bluish. There are some small white spots/spekcles scattered around. I did not have a lot of time to inspect the piece so not sure if they are in the glaze or on the surface, natural or not.
As Peter would probably say, a piece like this would need  a hands-on inspection. I am rullung out the bowl being a Song period ( wish it was :)) but could it be a later revival or just a recent fake?
I may go to have a second look but not sure what exactly to pay attention to?
Title: Re: Song Style Bowl
Post by: peterp on May 30, 2017, 13:46:29
Yes, I think modern, but not a reproduction. Song wares did not have such marks. I would have thought it was Japanese, they like such marks, if it were not for the character which is hardly used in Japanese.
Title: Re: Song Style Bowl
Post by: kardinalisimo on May 30, 2017, 21:30:28
Thanks for the reply Peter. By such marks you mean having unglazed spot and the mark being done in the clay before firing?
What is the character about anyway?