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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: wk on Apr 01, 2017, 00:03:23

Title: Kangxi or later?
Post by: wk on Apr 01, 2017, 00:03:23
I recently bought this nice plate, am I correct it is Kangxi period or is it possibly later?
Thank you!
Title: Re: Kangxi or later?
Post by: heavenguy on Apr 01, 2017, 00:13:27
for what is worth, I think is from the period.
Title: Re: Kangxi or later?
Post by: wk on Apr 01, 2017, 00:56:35
It is, sometimes I seem to miss some obvious things. All the help is appreciated.
Thanks heavenguy!
Title: Re: Kangxi or later?
Post by: Stan on Apr 01, 2017, 03:03:22
If this is the true blue color, I would put it at a later time, the Kangxi blue was known for their 5 shades of blue and they were brighter in color, this looks more like the blue you see on late Qing also the Mandarin mark of Honour looks different from other marks I have seen, the shape is right and the tree with out leaves, but the structure in the background look strange in my opinion.
Title: Re: Kangxi or later?
Post by: peterp on Apr 01, 2017, 09:48:36
I am not so sure about this, Stan. You mentioned the leafless trees, but the thin parallel lines of the water are also typical Kangxi. I agree that the overall design of scenery is not of the quality other Kangxi wares have, but the same is the case with some Qianlong wares, where lake, buildings and mountains are painted in a similar offhand fashion, while others wares depicting the same are very neat. This could as well be the difference between cheaper mass production and better wares.

Yes, you are right regarding the mountains and the color depths, but there are exceptions. BTW, the first impression I got is that it might be from Dehua kiln not JDZ. That could account for the blue color and some differences. If the foot rim is rounded and/or lower than usual, and/or there is a radius where the rim meets the interior are of the base, then that is likely. Maybe we can get an additional picture showing the foot rim and base at an angle?
Title: Re: Kangxi or later?
Post by: Stan on Apr 01, 2017, 10:26:34
Thanks Peter, I am not that familiar with Dehua kilns.
Title: Re: Kangxi or later?
Post by: peterp on Apr 01, 2017, 10:27:19
I would like the opportunity to touch a on Kangxi wares. No matter if this plate is Kangxi or not, we should always keep in mind that the Kangxi reign was one of the longest, if not the longest, in Chinese history. That may show in the diversity of type and quality of wares produced.

More on the Kangxi period: http://www.chinese-antique-porcelain.com/kangxi-porcelain.html
Title: Re: Kangxi or later?
Post by: wk on Apr 04, 2017, 20:09:15
I don't know exactly what you mean by if there is a radius where the rim meets the interior of the base Peter. But here is a picture of the foot at an angle. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Kangxi or later?
Post by: peterp on Apr 05, 2017, 08:13:27
Thanks. No, this is not a Dehua rim.
Title: Re: Kangxi or later?
Post by: wk on Apr 05, 2017, 23:36:01
Thanks again!