Chinese Ceramics & Antiques Discussion

Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: wk on Mar 21, 2017, 19:58:44

Title: ming jar?
Post by: wk on Mar 21, 2017, 19:58:44
Hi, one of my friends had this jar which was bought as a Ming jar.

I doubt that it is Ming, although it looks old, because the rim has some dirt only on the outside.
It looks as if this was then overpainted. I can't be sure though. Should I try to remove some of it, or is this an obvious fake?

Thank you!


Title: Re: ming jar?
Post by: heavenguy on Mar 22, 2017, 00:51:57
They usually call them ming jars but is probably made in the late 19th century... They are quite common.
Title: Re: ming jar?
Post by: peterp on Mar 22, 2017, 09:04:50
19th century. It cannot be "Ming". Ginger jars with an unglazed neck/shoulder are always Qing dynasty. This is a fairly reliable dating feature.
Title: Re: ming jar?
Post by: wk on Mar 22, 2017, 23:33:17
Thank you both!
Title: Re: ming jar?
Post by: Stan on Mar 23, 2017, 00:47:07
Wouldn't this date to the Mid Qing with unglazed top, Late Qing the top would have been glazed, I believe.
Title: Re: ming jar?
Post by: peterp on Mar 23, 2017, 09:35:38
Depends on what you think amounts to "late" Qing. Here usually Daoguang to 1911.
Ginger jars throughout the Qing dynasty had unglazed necks. As far as I can see only late Guangxu jars, especially export wares, had a glazed shoulder/neck.