Chinese Ceramics & Antiques Discussion

Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: Ken on Feb 23, 2017, 11:53:28

Title: Brush pot or candel holder ?
Post by: Ken on Feb 23, 2017, 11:53:28
Any info and dateing would be much appreciated thanks








Title: Re: Brush pot or candel holder ?
Post by: Ken on Feb 23, 2017, 11:59:03
Photos are little blurry had to compress so I'm able to post
Title: Re: Brush pot or candel holder ?
Post by: peterp on Feb 23, 2017, 15:40:31
This seems to be a variation of the Gu vase. From what is visible in these pictures it seems to be export porcelain made during the Qing dynasty, Qianlong reign.
Title: Re: Brush pot or candel holder ?
Post by: Ken on Feb 24, 2017, 00:11:05
Thanks petter for your fast reply

Title: Re: Brush pot or candel holder ?
Post by: Ken on Feb 24, 2017, 01:39:42
The gu vase I did not know they made miniatures that size

I have also picked up this blue vase mabye 3 inches labeled as a toothpicked holder

Title: Re: Brush pot or candel holder ?
Post by: heavenguy on Feb 24, 2017, 08:23:43
I was wondering if that vase is cream in color??? If so, did they make cream color porcelain in the Qianlong reign???
Title: Re: Brush pot or candel holder ?
Post by: peterp on Feb 24, 2017, 09:04:22
If you are talking about the glaze, off white is the normal color in any period. There was no pure white but white with a yellowish, blueis, gray or other tint. Pure white is suspicious and it was only 'late in the late Qing dynasty' or early 20th century that some items were really white.
Title: Re: Brush pot or candel holder ?
Post by: peterp on Feb 24, 2017, 09:07:44
The tooth pick holder is Japanese and possibly printed.

Like many other porcelain shapes, Gu is just a shape taken from ancient bronze vessels, possibly ritual vessels, used over 2000 years ago.
Title: Re: Brush pot or candel holder ?
Post by: heavenguy on Feb 25, 2017, 01:58:53
Peterp,

Yes, I was asking about the glaze sorry. I had a hard time trying to find a vase similar to mine but Ken put one like mine so I started doubting my interpretation. Because all the similar ones I found online and in reference books had this kind of white but not bright color I made the assumption that the vase was 20th century. It almost reminded me of a more whitish color for Japanese Satsuma. I attached a couple of pics of my similar vase...
Title: Re: Brush pot or candel holder ?
Post by: heavenguy on Feb 25, 2017, 01:59:19
It also has a similar foot...
Title: Re: Brush pot or candel holder ?
Post by: peterp on Feb 26, 2017, 08:10:20
heavenguy, yes yours is typical Qianlong era export. This is what they call "mandarin" wares in the west, I think. You should be able to find similar items online.
Title: Re: Brush pot or candel holder ?
Post by: heavenguy on Feb 27, 2017, 00:04:23
Hi Peterp, Thank you very much. I was able to find similar items to mine with the information provided. As far as I can see this was part of a garniture of 5 items. Two vases and 3 ginger jar vases all about same size. Maybe this vase was part of the same set as Ken's item. Anyways, Thank you for the information provided.