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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: calder on Apr 12, 2014, 05:00:23

Title: Qianjiang Porcelain bowl?
Post by: calder on Apr 12, 2014, 05:00:23
I have two bowls with the same decoration.
Thoughts?
Japanese again?
Title: Re: Qianjiang Porcelain bowl?
Post by: calder on Apr 12, 2014, 08:09:05
Internet is so full of info.
Found out it is Chinese-- Indication is that the mark translates
"Jin Yu Zhen Cang,  Precious Collection of Treasure ? Kangxi & Guangxu period mark"
Dont no if that is correct?
As for the poem I have no Idea  or artist.
Title: Re: Qianjiang Porcelain bowl?
Post by: peterp on Apr 12, 2014, 18:41:48
The resolution of the images (except the one showing the bottom) is quite insufficient to see the decoration/faces clearly.
Title: Re: Qianjiang Porcelain bowl?
Post by: calder on Apr 12, 2014, 23:54:11
Hi Peter hope these help.
Many thanks
Title: Re: Qianjiang Porcelain bowl?
Post by: Stan on Apr 13, 2014, 02:09:12
Peter, I think the gold is to bright to be a period Chinese piece. Japanese I don't know.
Title: Re: Qianjiang Porcelain bowl?
Post by: peterp on Apr 13, 2014, 06:49:03
The gilt is about right for late Qing or early republic.
However, I think this is an old bowl with the onglaze decoration added much later.
With that I mean the decoration itself is probably not antique.
They tried to copy Tongzhi/Guangxu style of red line faces, but the result is wrong.
The center figure should probably be the benevolent Budai (shown on the homepage of this site), but instead of smiling he looks quite frightening. The same with the boys.
Title: Re: Qianjiang Porcelain bowl?
Post by: calder on Apr 13, 2014, 08:00:19
Thanks Peter And Stan.
The  painted faces do freak me out a bit.
Not the prettiest of pieces I have.
But still decorative.
Title: Re: Qianjiang Porcelain bowl?
Post by: calder on Apr 13, 2014, 08:15:41
Just a question- why would the decorators paint this scene on an old bowl?
When the bowl is of little value (I think).
Perhaps just practicing their skills?
Title: Re: Qianjiang Porcelain bowl?
Post by: shelley Kong on Apr 13, 2014, 14:50:45
This is  dated porcelain
Title: Re: Qianjiang Porcelain bowl?
Post by: calder on Apr 13, 2014, 23:19:46
Hi Shelley what  does it report to say?
Many thanks
Title: Re: Qianjiang Porcelain bowl?
Post by: peterp on Apr 14, 2014, 08:37:28
Usually, later painted decorations are painted on old but plain porcelain items to make them appear more valuable. The cyclical year given can be either 1908 or 1968. See calendar on site. The decoration is unlikely from the former... we consider the last decoration as the age of such items, but I doubt many collectors feel that these items are worth collecting.
Title: Re: Qianjiang Porcelain bowl?
Post by: calder on Apr 16, 2014, 05:57:19
Thank you |Peter.