Chinese Ceramics & Antiques Discussion

Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: Ragna on Jan 09, 2016, 20:22:07

Title: Bowl, Chinese or not?
Post by: Ragna on Jan 09, 2016, 20:22:07
Hello,

I bought this bowl for 2? on a flea market, and I do not know, where it  comes from. I cannot find something similar to this in european ceramics.
I think, it is older and the incarving at the rim looks handmade, however the ground looks like it is impressed.

Do you have any idea, what it may be?
Title: Re: Bowl, Chinese or not?
Post by: Ragna on Jan 10, 2016, 00:25:33
Here are two more pictures of the Bowl.  And please tell me, what you think: Is it Celadon or not?
Title: Re: Bowl, Chinese or not?
Post by: Stan on Jan 10, 2016, 02:18:30
If this is Chinese it would be late 20th century, In my opinion.
Title: Re: Bowl, Chinese or not?
Post by: Ragna on Jan 10, 2016, 15:53:20
Thank you, Stan, then it must be an european  item.
Do you think, that the glace could be Seladon?
Many thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Bowl, Chinese or not?
Post by: Stan on Jan 11, 2016, 00:14:47
This would be called a Celadon glaze, it originated in the Han dynasty at the Longuan kilns, the glaze colors from greenish to green and blue, these wares were copied by Japanese and Korean kilns early on and are still being copied today.
Title: Re: Bowl, Chinese or not?
Post by: peterp on Jan 11, 2016, 08:24:34
I would like to correct this information a bit. Based on my Chinese sources celadon was fired by other kilns which were not as large. Longquan kiln has its origin in the Northern Song dynasty. But as Stan mentioned, celadon was fired since about the Han dynasty. It did not look like the later celadon, though. I would call it a proto-celadon. It was not even greenish at all, but has more of a yellowish color. The original glaze was possibly discovered by accident, being liquid soot that dripped in the heat of the kiln from the ceiling unto the wares fired below.
Title: Re: Bowl, Chinese or not?
Post by: Stan on Jan 11, 2016, 08:55:36
Thanks Peter, my info is westernized.
Title: Re: Bowl, Chinese or not?
Post by: Ragna on Jan 12, 2016, 06:14:58
Thank you so much, that was a great help and very interesting!