Chinese Ceramics & Antiques Discussion

Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: persnickety on Jul 15, 2015, 05:58:29

Title: Help with age of vases
Post by: persnickety on Jul 15, 2015, 05:58:29
Hello. I was hoping you might be able to help with the age of these vases. They are a little over 11" tall. Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Help with age of vases
Post by: peterp on Jul 15, 2015, 08:00:59
The blue characters are much too small to read.
Title: Re: Help with age of vases
Post by: persnickety on Jul 15, 2015, 09:30:43
Thank you for taking the time to help. Here's a closer picture, but the characters themselves are blurry.
Title: Re: Help with age of vases
Post by: peterp on Jul 15, 2015, 09:44:45
You could try to scratch the characters with a needle or similar. If the color comes off, then it is probably not a mark proper but something that was added after production. The characters remain illegible, blurred. With Chinese porcelain marks would normally be in the center, and under the glaze, with blue ones.

The tone of blue of the ring near the top points to the 20th century. The painting and colors themselves could be second quarter or later, in my view. If the characters on the bottom are really a mark, then this might be a different matter.
Title: Re: Help with age of vases
Post by: persnickety on Jul 15, 2015, 10:26:15
I scratched the marks on both of the vases and they are under the glaze. Here is a picture of the bottom of the second vase. Unfortunately, it's more illegible than the first.
Title: Re: Help with age of vases
Post by: persnickety on Jul 16, 2015, 19:21:48
Thank you, Peter. What does it mean if the mark is off center and under the glaze?

I am just starting to learn about Chinese porcelain and it's overwhelming. Are there any books that you would recommend for a beginner?
Title: Re: Help with age of vases
Post by: peterp on Jul 22, 2015, 06:24:53
> Are there any books that you would recommend for a beginner?

Start with this site. That is the purpose for which it has been created. Unfortunately, there seems to be no other single resource that helps novices to get into the basics.