Chinese Ceramics & Antiques Discussion

Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: Stan on Jun 30, 2015, 12:25:00

Title: Blue and white lidded jar
Post by: Stan on Jun 30, 2015, 12:25:00
Hi Peter, can you tell me if this is a Chinese export with Islamic motifs, this appears to be very old and has all the right age signs, it is all hand drawn with blue oxide under a white slightly bluish ground, on the bottom is a under glazed blue artemisia leaf, could you tell me if this is 18th century it is heavy potted and was made in three sections, this has large bubbles in the glaze when examined under a 10 X loop also the unglazed foot rim feels rough to the touch, not smooth and it is 22.8 cm to the top of the lid, any information would be great, I will post 12 photo's to view, thanks again for all your help.
Title: Re: Blue and white lidded jar
Post by: Stan on Jun 30, 2015, 12:26:57
Here is more photo's to view.
Title: Re: Blue and white lidded jar
Post by: Stan on Jun 30, 2015, 12:28:18
Last set of photo's to view, thanks for your expertise.
Title: Re: Blue and white lidded jar
Post by: peterp on Jun 30, 2015, 16:07:23
There is no Islamic motif, as far as I can see. The type of decoration you probably think of has a different type of flower (petals). This decoration is common, but the leaves, for example, don't look much the way they usually look on Chinese porcelain, and the details are quite big for a jar of this size.
Looks all old, but if it is a ginger jar, then neck and shoulder should be without glaze unless it is Shunzhi. I do not know when the  leaf mark was first used, but the mark is best known for Kangxi.

Title: Re: Blue and white lidded jar
Post by: Stan on Jul 01, 2015, 07:45:19
Thanks Peter, I showed it to a guy that was telling me that he thought it was an Islamic motif thanks for setting the record straight.
Title: Re: Blue and white lidded jar
Post by: peterp on Jul 01, 2015, 08:08:54
Many Chinese porcelain decorations may have been influenced by designs made for export to the Middle East. But I doubt that there were that many in the Qing dynasty. The plate on page 26 of the e-book, top left, may be an example; especially the part of the decoration between the star-shaped flowers.