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Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: hoogenbosch67 on Mar 12, 2015, 23:54:12

Title: Tang dynasty tomb figurine
Post by: hoogenbosch67 on Mar 12, 2015, 23:54:12
Hello,

I have found the following tomb figurine. The information I have found is:
Period: Tang dynasty (786-835)
Product Terra cotta clay
Item: Fat lady  (red green black and white)
Height: 32cm width 12cm
Excavated in Chang An

Its almost impossible this item is genuine. I bought the book "Women of the Tang Dynasty (Genius of China Close-Up Guides)" to check

Please let me know whats your opinion. Can we only be sure with a thermoLuminesence test that this item is genuine?

Greetings Jan
Title: Re: Tang dynasty tomb figurine
Post by: hoogenbosch67 on Mar 12, 2015, 23:55:01
Extra detail photos and bottom
Title: Re: Tang dynasty tomb figurine
Post by: peterp on Mar 13, 2015, 07:22:52
Maybe someone else reading this knows more about this? I cannot help with Tang items as it requires a different knowledge. A large part of what is on the market seems to be fakes. Unfortunately, the crazing which apparently is common on Tang sancai cannot be checked as there is no glaze. I only know that these were mostly made of low-fired Kaolin clay. I wonder what the plaster-like material is?
A TL test costs $400 to 500 I hear. Is it worth that? The test can be defeated and is not reliable in my view. (See more about 'scientific authentication' in the site.)
Title: Re: Tang dynasty tomb figurine
Post by: hoogenbosch67 on Mar 13, 2015, 18:50:54
Thanks for you remarques. Attached extra photos. The clay is red and the white color (plaster like white) is on top of it (white paint). I allready read your scientific authentication test and I have allready contacted the department at the University of Gent. I am waiting for their response. I hope some other visitors of the forum can also post their opinion. Greetings
Title: Re: Tang dynasty tomb figurine
Post by: peterp on Mar 13, 2015, 19:33:21
If the clay is red, then the chance that it is genuine is low; not impossible but low. It should be kaolin based, which is white or whitish.