Chinese Ceramics & Antiques Discussion

Antique Chinese Ceramics => Chinese Ceramics Discussion => Topic started by: kardinalisimo on Jan 16, 2015, 03:18:35

Title: Pair Chinese Export Vases
Post by: kardinalisimo on Jan 16, 2015, 03:18:35
Sorry, but I could not take a good pic of the bottom.
What do you think, early to mid Qing or later?
Thanks

Title: Re: Pair Chinese Export Vases
Post by: peterp on Jan 16, 2015, 12:22:45
Late Qing dynasty. Probably Tongzhi or thereabouts.
Title: Re: Pair Chinese Export Vases
Post by: kardinalisimo on Jan 16, 2015, 13:14:33
Thanks.
Are the the people's faces and hairdos that point to that period?
Title: Re: Pair Chinese Export Vases
Post by: peterp on Jan 16, 2015, 21:00:58
The coloring in general also. I would look at 'rose medallion' items... :-)
Title: Re: Pair Chinese Export Vases
Post by: kardinalisimo on Jan 16, 2015, 21:59:10
I've always found the term rose medallion/mandarin not quite right but I guess nowaydays that makes it easy(in the west) to distinguish from other types of decorations. Don't know how the Chinese call them.
I don't know why but I am not a big fan of that style. Unless there is something different or unusual.
Title: Re: Pair Chinese Export Vases
Post by: Stan on Jan 17, 2015, 01:54:26
I think a pair of these undamaged from that period and that style would be quite collectable.
Title: Re: Pair Chinese Export Vases
Post by: peterp on Jan 17, 2015, 07:12:42
I do not know for sure if yours IS rose medallion, but it is suitable to compare as the decoration style is largely the same.

Rose medallion items have a rose in a medallion. With plates this is usually in the center. Nothing to do with the color, it seems.

Mandarin would be 'Mandaren' in todays pinyin. Man means Manchu, daren is a honorific form of addressing Manchu officials. Manchus were the ruling class in the Qing dynasty. Therefore, you will see people, especially men, in official attire. Quite a logic decoration name after all.