Ming bowls from excavation in Indonesia (I have doubts lol)

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Saw these from the same sellers as that Wanli bowl with the mark.

Wonder what you guys thing haha..

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Yeah, fakes and a fake excavation. Excavated bowls never are pristine, and often there is glaze loss or ingrained soil, depending on the soil type.
What makes it double suspicious is that all of these should be together, have a mark, AND underglaze red. These three are individually highly unlikely, of course even more so when combined.

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Haha yeah I saw the photos and thought it was hilarious