Large dragon in clouds vase

[ssbill]

I am not sure if this is chinese, the decorations and bottom looks like  nothing I've ever seen. There is some age signs however, could have been made new this way... I am not sure. I would be very grateful if you could share your opinion about this piece. Thanks

[ssbill]

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[peterp]

One of the dragons looks a bit like a Japanese dragon. Otherwise the shape could be late Qing. If a dragon tail tip was visible that might confirm it.