2 Guangxu Plates, Period?

kardinalisimo · May 17, 2014, 20:25:50

Are they from the period or later? Is it normal to have the marks in blue. They feature the same decoration but the marks are painted slightly different.

kardinalisimo · May 18, 2014, 21:57:35

Any comments?
Thanks

Stan · May 18, 2014, 22:21:27

Hi kardinalisimo, the yellow is the wrong color for Guangxu period, I think that this is a later copy, mid to late 20th century.

kardinalisimo · May 18, 2014, 23:43:51

Stan,
What is the right yellow for the period. More bright?

Stan · May 19, 2014, 01:14:19

Yes it would be a much brighter yellow, not a dirty dark yellow like yours, this color is a much later yellow in my opinion.

Stan · May 19, 2014, 01:36:53

Hi Kardinalisimo, I just found a bowl on Christies past lots sold for over $5500 and the design is very similar to yours, at the top, the bottom of the bowl is the right color yellow but at the top the design was drawn in red, when fired the iron red color bled a little into the yellow color making a little darker, I can't tell if yours was drawn in red, looks like it might me. here is the photo, from Christies.

kardinalisimo · May 19, 2014, 06:49:03

If you mean that Meander pattern, it is done in red.

Stan · May 19, 2014, 07:47:19

This photo shows a lighter yellow than the other photos you sent, this is a much better photo, it looks authentic to me and they did use blue marks as well, I think a hands on inspection would be needed to authenticate.

kardinalisimo · May 19, 2014, 08:31:03

Well, honestly I don't know if someone in my area can do that.
But even if authentic I don't think they are that valuable.
By the way, which pieces are the most sought and highly valued? Like shapes, types, periods,decoration, rarity etc... Seems like not every antique Chinese porcelain worth a lot.

Stan · May 19, 2014, 10:05:14

Signed Guangxu bowls or what ever if it was authentic would be valuable, five digits.

kardinalisimo · May 19, 2014, 10:45:04

You mean four digits?
I did a quick search on internet and don't see any impressive results. I know that the Bay is full of fakes but claimed period pieces are selling so cheap.

Stan · May 19, 2014, 11:25:42

A pair is more valuable to the Chinese than a single, at a high end auction, Guangxu pairs could go into the 5 digit range.

Stan · May 19, 2014, 11:27:28

If your bowls were authentic, they would be imperial and very valuable.

kardinalisimo · May 19, 2014, 15:08:38

Stan, why they would be Imperial if authentic?

Stan · May 19, 2014, 21:17:42

Because of the mark, it was only used for imperial porcelain, but comparing the dragon on yours to the dragon on the ones that sold at christies your dragon looks different, the scales are different on yours or it could be the small pictures you posted.