ming jar?

[wk]

Hi, one of my friends had this jar which was bought as a Ming jar.

I doubt that it is Ming, although it looks old, because the rim has some dirt only on the outside.
It looks as if this was then overpainted. I can't be sure though. Should I try to remove some of it, or is this an obvious fake?

Thank you!

[heavenguy]

They usually call them ming jars but is probably made in the late 19th century... They are quite common.

[peterp]

19th century. It cannot be "Ming". Ginger jars with an unglazed neck/shoulder are always Qing dynasty. This is a fairly reliable dating feature.

[wk]

Thank you both!

[Stan]

Wouldn't this date to the Mid Qing with unglazed top, Late Qing the top would have been glazed, I believe.

[peterp]

Depends on what you think amounts to "late" Qing. Here usually Daoguang to 1911.
Ginger jars throughout the Qing dynasty had unglazed necks. As far as I can see only late Guangxu jars, especially export wares, had a glazed shoulder/neck.