Large Charger with Guangxu dragons.

[Stan]

Hi Peter, here is a very large Charger measuring 53.7 cm across and 12.7 high, this is an amazing hand painted Charger, one of the best that I have seen, very detailed, centered with a red and gold dragon, the mark is in my book of marks and reads, Chu xiu gong zhi, which I believe is a Guangxu mark, the clouds are not usual for Guangxu clouds that I have seen , the dragons look good though, your expertise is much appreciated.

[Stan]

Here is another set of photo's, I am trying to figure out this new camera and the photo's are either to large or to small, I will figure it out.

[Stan]

Last set of photo's, thanks for viewing.

[Stan]

Here is a larger photo of the first one I posted.

[peterp]

The double foot rim seems to serve no use. I think it was originally intended to strengthen the bottom of plates, to prevent it from sagging during firing. But with the inner rim being so near the outer rim I wonder what its purpose should be?
With the diameter you mentioned it looks as if the mark is quite big too. I would think that the mark would not be much larger than usual, even with a large charger. I would think 2-3cm should be normal. Then, the blue color of the mark would not have a purple tint, usually.

Yes, the clouds look a bit off the normal too. I do not know what this means. I have been told that yellow glazes do develop crackling very easily, thus this may not be applicable as age sign.

The mark is "Chu Xiu Gong" ???, the name of a palace within the imperial palace (forbidden city).
If authentic, the item would have to be imperial, made in the Guangxu period, but I suspect it is later, perhaps republic period?

[Stan]

Thanks Peter, that was my thought as well, republic, I never seen anything from the Guangxu period that had a mark like this, it does have some age marks, sorry for the lousy photography, I think I found out why my colors are never quite right, a friend of mine that sells on E-bay was showing me how he takes photos, I was amazed at how accurate his colors we're with a Cheap digital camera, he said the trick is the bulbs, they need to be full spectrum bulbs, I bought some today and I will test them out as soon as I can, the mark is blue with no purple in it what so ever, I hope that is the problem, it would make sense, this is the third camera that I have purchased and I am still having the same issues with color, what does that tell you, its not the camera, thanks again Peter, for your help.

[peterp]

Hehe... looks as if you did not read the email dated Feb 26th.

[Stan]

No I did read the email, I thought I was doing what you said, except the chair, I was using a chest and the wall for the back but I did not try the paper yet, I will try it.