Cup

Mike · Dec 05, 2015, 00:36:56

Hi all

I've already been helped by Mat in the non ceramic forum. I finally got to a piece from my grandmothers estate that is ceramic. It appears to be a cup (maybe an offering cup or something?). Thank you for helping me identify this for me. I just don't want to donate anything my grandmother would have wanted me to keep.

calder · Dec 05, 2015, 00:56:53

Hi Mike
From the littile knowledge I have this is a Benjarong bowl it is Thai and translates to five colours.
Hope this helps.
SOME ONE WILL TELL YOU FOR SURE.

Stan · Dec 07, 2015, 23:58:04

Hi Calder, I think these colors were used in the Jiajing period during the great ming dynasty, what makes you think it is Taiwanese?

Mat · Dec 08, 2015, 00:17:46

Hi, the shape and decoration reminds me also of Benjarong, I think these pieces were also made in China for the Thai market. Mat

calder · Dec 08, 2015, 00:57:55

Hi Stan it looks to me to erthenware rather than porcelain.
Could be wrong though.
For the Thai market.

Stan · Dec 08, 2015, 04:09:16

You could be right Calder, it does look a bit porous, but it looks like it was made in a mould and some times can look that way, Mike, you can check to see if it is porcelain or stone ware by placing it on a towel and clicking it with your fingers, if it makes a high ring tone then it is porcelain, a low ring tone would mean that it is stoneware, also I think it was the Wucai Ming period that started the 5 colors and then copied by later periods.

Stan · Dec 08, 2015, 04:24:54

Correction, Wucai means 5 colors, I am not sure what period they started using 5 colors, I think I can be safe saying it started sometime in the Ming dynasty.

Mike · Dec 08, 2015, 07:02:41

Hi guys

Thank you for all of the information. I did flick it and it rang, so I suppose it is porcelain. I know of the Ming dynasty just from college but also know it was a long period. I would assume it would be late Ming if it is? If you have a ballpark period of time that would be helpful. Otherwise I will just make sure not to donate this one due to its historical nature. Thank you again.

Stan · Dec 08, 2015, 09:01:05

Hi Mike, I really don't know that much about Ming porcelain, but I think it is safe to say that your stem cup with the scalloped edge is very unusual for Ming, I think it could also be Japanese, they did a lot of porcelain with scalloped edges and they copied the Chinese, it looks old and could be Edo peroid if it is Japanese.